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Worldcentric compassion by heterosexual men for heterosexual men

Posted on Jul 8th, 2007 by Durwin : Radical dad Durwin

I don't know exactly what to say about this topic...I just know it is an important one and is one that I don't think I have ever read much about anywhere...the "old boy's club", btw, was not about this --  the old boys club was about particular groups of men bonding together to achieve protection and provision for "their" particular group of women and children --  and against other "old boys clubs" belonging to different companies, religions, countries.

I am not stressing heterosexuality to exclude homosexual men.  I am stressing heterosexuality to include heterosexual men.  For me it is a given that I, as a heterosexual man, ought to be compassionate towards homosexual men, as well as towards sexuals of any other kind.   


I just think that the idea of worldcentric compassion extended by heterosexual men to all other heterosexual men would be something of an evolutionary breakthrough...but what do you think?

Is this a discourse and/or praxis that anyone else knows about or has engaged in?  It would need to be at integral altitude to work, because at green altitude, men's compassion for other men is often blunted by their uncritical support for the shadow aspects of feminism (e.g. victim feminism, competitive feminism -- see Warren Farrell and Hoff-Summers for critiques of the shadow aspects of postmodern feminism).  Compassion at green is also compromised by being too wimpy...too much idiot compassion -- too much support, not enough challenge: e.g. idiot compassion won't work with terrorists and/or those with highly narcissistic and/or anti-social personalities in general...

It strikes me that we don't really have an integral men's discourse...we have bits and pieces...its scary territory because we certainly don't want to regress to "old boys club" mentality...but i think it is good to remember that the old boys club wasn't really about this....this would be something emergent...







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Vanessa : Dharma Dancer
10 days later
Vanessa said

Well as a woman I just have to say I soooo whole heartedly support this!! This is so important and often left behind or forgotten about amidst all the feminist focus of our times.

I often am curious of how going through feminism will also have changed men and how they will come together to figure out who they are in this newly emerging integral context, which both embraces the women's movement but also transcends the guilt based conscience that incapacites the male psyche… at least I can only imagine… And then finding new ways to express and experience intimacy with one another… this is truly important work Durwin.

Best to you on this endeavor

Durwin : Radical dad
11 days later
Durwin said

Thanks, Vanessa.  Your input on this means a lot!
And man, must have been a little surreal for you yesterday to have that kind of positive regard for your work coming from Ken, or, are you old hat with it now :)
I felt hopeful for my two, well, beautiful little girls yesterday when hearing about and reading your work…

Vanessa : Dharma Dancer
11 days later
Vanessa said

Definitely on the side of surreal(-: Also very exciting for the greater purpose of what I feel called to bring forth into the world… that is helping young girls like yours find their beauty with less suffering than the rest of us had to endure.

Let me know what happens with the mens group(-:

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